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	<title>Comments on: True or False: The Utah Utes should be considered the #1 team in the nation</title>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It pains me to say it, but yes, they should be #1.  If BYU had done what Utah did, I&#039;d be saying the same thing, so I have to be intellectually honest here.  

As for a playoff, make it the top 8 ranked conference champions.  You have to win your conference to get in, and you have to win some real OOC games, too, to get ranked.  No at-large bids, unless an independent is ranked higher than one of the top-eight conference champs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It pains me to say it, but yes, they should be #1.  If BYU had done what Utah did, I&#8217;d be saying the same thing, so I have to be intellectually honest here.  </p>
<p>As for a playoff, make it the top 8 ranked conference champions.  You have to win your conference to get in, and you have to win some real OOC games, too, to get ranked.  No at-large bids, unless an independent is ranked higher than one of the top-eight conference champs.</p>
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		<title>By: Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HP, maybe he should be a defense attorney?  (&lt;i&gt;bg&lt;/i&gt;)

The problem is that teams like Utah are effectively ineligible for any real playoff.  That two teams with loses were placed ahead is just ridiculous.  Especially since just a few years ago Utah was in the situation.

The fact that MCQ notes just demonstrates the bias in the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HP, maybe he should be a defense attorney?  (<i>bg</i>)</p>
<p>The problem is that teams like Utah are effectively ineligible for any real playoff.  That two teams with loses were placed ahead is just ridiculous.  Especially since just a few years ago Utah was in the situation.</p>
<p>The fact that MCQ notes just demonstrates the bias in the system.</p>
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		<title>By: MCQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MCQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Do you guys really think that a schedule that tops out at #12 should entitle you to play for all the marbles? Really?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, really.  It happens all the time that the teams playing for the national championship haven&#039;t played a top 10 team until the bowl game.  In fact, until Alabama (their last game) Florida did not play a top ten team all year, and still managed to have one loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Do you guys really think that a schedule that tops out at #12 should entitle you to play for all the marbles? Really?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, really.  It happens all the time that the teams playing for the national championship haven&#8217;t played a top 10 team until the bowl game.  In fact, until Alabama (their last game) Florida did not play a top ten team all year, and still managed to have one loss.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This thread is now incontrovertible proof that Kaimi will argue the other side of any point which seems sensible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thread is now incontrovertible proof that Kaimi will argue the other side of any point which seems sensible.</p>
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		<title>By: HP</title>
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		<dc:creator>HP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kaimi,

Setting aside the rightness or wrongness of Utah&#039;s bid to be #1, would you agree that the BCS is an unfair system designed to continue tilting the playing field in favor of those 5 conferences (for all the good it is doing the ACC and the Big East)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaimi,</p>
<p>Setting aside the rightness or wrongness of Utah&#8217;s bid to be #1, would you agree that the BCS is an unfair system designed to continue tilting the playing field in favor of those 5 conferences (for all the good it is doing the ACC and the Big East)?</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, that is awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, that is awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>False.  It has been proven to my satisfaction that the number one team in college football this year is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salon.com/sports/kaufman/feature/2009/01/06/utah/print.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tulane&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>False.  It has been proven to my satisfaction that the number one team in college football this year is <a href="http://www.salon.com/sports/kaufman/feature/2009/01/06/utah/print.html" rel="nofollow">Tulane</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: BTD Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>BTD Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
They know the criteria. These are:

1. Win games.
2. Win games in a convincing way.
3. Don’t schedule Weber State.

They managed #1, but not #2 or #3.

Utah *knows* that it comes down to a committee. They *know* the way that you make an impression. (There are dozens of ESPN articles about Texas and Oklahoma and the convincing ways they beat teams.)

Utah knew the rules, and they blew it. And now they’re bellyaching about it.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Look, I have no dog in this fight whatsoever, but I think you&#039;re wrong.  It&#039;s not like Utah can just call up next year&#039;s projected top ten and say, &quot;Hey, how about we play some football?!&quot;  The football season is, necessarily, very limited.  Utah played Michigan (usually better than they were this year, but there was no way to know that when the game was scheduled) and an Oregon State team that had just beaten USC.  *Every* school schedules in-state rivals and a few subpar warm-up games.  Do you think UTEP was a challenge for Texas, or Chattanooga a worthy opponent for Oklahoma?

I think Utah knew the rules and did everything they could have possibly done (short of teleporting themselves into a BCS conference).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
They know the criteria. These are:</p>
<p>1. Win games.<br />
2. Win games in a convincing way.<br />
3. Don’t schedule Weber State.</p>
<p>They managed #1, but not #2 or #3.</p>
<p>Utah *knows* that it comes down to a committee. They *know* the way that you make an impression. (There are dozens of ESPN articles about Texas and Oklahoma and the convincing ways they beat teams.)</p>
<p>Utah knew the rules, and they blew it. And now they’re bellyaching about it.
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<p>Look, I have no dog in this fight whatsoever, but I think you&#8217;re wrong.  It&#8217;s not like Utah can just call up next year&#8217;s projected top ten and say, &#8220;Hey, how about we play some football?!&#8221;  The football season is, necessarily, very limited.  Utah played Michigan (usually better than they were this year, but there was no way to know that when the game was scheduled) and an Oregon State team that had just beaten USC.  *Every* school schedules in-state rivals and a few subpar warm-up games.  Do you think UTEP was a challenge for Texas, or Chattanooga a worthy opponent for Oklahoma?</p>
<p>I think Utah knew the rules and did everything they could have possibly done (short of teleporting themselves into a BCS conference).</p>
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		<title>By: John K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>John K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The education argument is just silly. You do realize these teams have been practicing for over a month since their last game. All that would change is they would get to play a game on the weekend. Their school work doesn&#039;t play a part in the discussion.

And if adding a couple weeks of playoffs would damage the football players so...why no outcry about the length of the college basketball season? It is a good deal longer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The education argument is just silly. You do realize these teams have been practicing for over a month since their last game. All that would change is they would get to play a game on the weekend. Their school work doesn&#8217;t play a part in the discussion.</p>
<p>And if adding a couple weeks of playoffs would damage the football players so&#8230;why no outcry about the length of the college basketball season? It is a good deal longer.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaimi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s a fair number, Clark?  Eight?  Twelve?  Sixteen?  Sixty-four?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s a fair number, Clark?  Eight?  Twelve?  Sixteen?  Sixty-four?</p>
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